I like them as they are not obvious on a white painted ceiling, and can be added to by smaller lights for atmosphere.G0BHD wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:23 am Yes I fit many flat panel LEDS these days, either the suspended ceiling type 600 x 600, or 1200 x 600, and the surface mount equivalents, and some circular variants of course of various diameters,
I agree they give great overall light coverage, absolute pee on the old style multi fluorescent tube versions of old, but for a living room area they do look a little like an office space or Doctors waiting room!
I use some nice quality down lighters for domestic areas, they are LED and switchable between warm white or daylight colour temperatures, and the bezels come in a whole range of colours to suit your decorating desires.
V70's, and their bigger cousin V100's, they look very tidy, and give a very good light coverage, and the option to choose the colour temperature with the flick of a front mounted switch, (which the bezel covers when fitted), is good for picking your desired light style.
They are dimmable as well, with a leading edge type dimmer unit, another bonus, for those that love dimmers of course, personally a light is either "on or off" to me!
I have a 600X600 in the kitchen, fed from the "old" main light through a PIR switch. The main light is now just three LED spots, and the LED panel is towards one corner over the cooker, sink and main work area. If some one leaves the light on, the total of the three spots is 15W
When we had the bathroom done, I fitted two 250X250, mounted along a diagonal between two corners, so one is about above the shower, and the other about above the basin, but fitted that way, there are no shadows. Again switched by a PIR, so youo never need to use the switch (which is now in a cupboard in the passage)
We also have one in the downstairs hall, and the downstairs loo, and the upstairs landing is also LED PIR swiched.
I have a chandelier with LEDs that is going in the stair well (U shaped stairs), that will be on a pulley, so to change lamps just put your head in the loft hatch and let it down. That is also having a PIR switch. Hope to finish that next week.
LED has changed things to me so that we can do just what we want without having power hungry halogen
I don't know the downlighters you mention, do they mount in the ceiling?
If so, then as you are putting a new ceiling in, they would be fine, but after helping (read doing it for him) fit 12 to his kitchen, and drilling the joists for the cable through the ceiling, not again !
I used to have dimmers, but like you say, a light is on or off, couldn't agree more; if you want less light, turn some off.