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Re: PMR 446

by M0VMT » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:58 am

I am putting a email together to ofcom regards the growing abuse on pmr 446 and why they are allowing such activities on a 500mw fixed antenna handheld band!
With ICNIRP hanging over us and EMF bull crap I want to know what their plan is regards pmr abuse and cb radio operators using high power linears....after all it works both ways.
I'm no snitch but I think these questions need to be brought up from concerned spectrum users.
No doubt the email will probably get no further than the spam filter or we need to know where the interference that is affecting you protocol.

Re: PMR 446

by M0VMT » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:05 pm

So it's the same down at your end Dave and it doesn't surprise me, the hobby is hitting rock bottom and no one can convince otherwise.
The bar hasn't been lowered it's gone long gone and the respect with it, radio is fun and meant to be but some operators need to give themselves a reality check and tow the line.

Re: PMR 446

by G0BHD » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:43 am

It's very much the same within RX range of here Mark.
Of a late evening by far the biggest gathering by way of a net if you want to call it that of "licensed radio amateurs" occurs on 446. :roll:
They don't even hide the fact they are amateurs, often mentioning what they have been doing on HF etc. during the day, bragging about the latest linear and "what it will do" including on 11 meters, and none of them are using either type approved 446 gear OR sticking anyway remotely close to 0.5 watts! :D
You can times that by 50 just as a starting point. ;)
As to why they do it, they treat it really like a gloves off "Tap Room", often the language and topics on there you would not like anyone without very broad shoulders to overhear coming out of your shack speaker. ;)
I know most of the voices on there, they don't use their amateur call signs of course, but they are unmistakable, I have known and heard around most of them for years, and most were and still remain avid "freebanders" despite getting whatever licence level for amateur radio they also happen to hold.
I think basically the "good buddy" mentality has never left them, and never will.
As for licence levels a mixture, mainly old M3's, a couple of full licence holders, and just lately a growing smattering of brand new 7's previously unlicensed, but who have taken advantage of the latest "bar lowering" online route, spurred on by their peers.

Re: PMR 446

by M0VMT » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:17 am

I've been a lad like many of us in the past but I wasn't licensed then not that it makes it right, things are going downhill big time in ham radio.
I've been away a few years from social media and I did most of my buying on ham radio deals but I got banned over some bullshit so my go to buy and sell site had to be supplemented with Facebook but....the stuff im reading on some of the radio sites is a joke and the hobby is being diluted into a shit fest.
Sorry to be so negative but things are now at a point where selling your hf gear showing 27.555 is not even shameless any more and now people licensed peeps on pmr 446 breaking all the rules they signed up for why? And why when they have a perfectly good spread on 70cm...I hear that excuse well my mates not licensed etc etc no but they took the time to get a pmr 446 radio or jail break a dual band can set and erect a antenna yet they can't sit the new life time web cam license.
If you are licensed and fascinated over pmr446 then you need to ask yourselves why you bothered getting licensed.

Re: PMR 446

by gw7unv » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:28 pm

I've just been thrown off 2 FB 446 groups for rocking the boat, I'm quite pleased about that.. :lol:
Too many amateurs and full licencees playing with illegal frequencies and powers, the only reply I got on FB is "Who cares and who polices it"..

Evan

Re: PMR 446

by G4PPB » Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:13 pm

Hi Mark,
I've only just joined the forum so I'm a little behind on this topic!

Where I live in Wigan I have heard a few of the local hams working another ham who was parked up on Winter Hill, conducting a "net" of people, far and wide, on 446MHz.
Later, one of the locals was asked why he'd participated and his reply was that he considered it all part of the radio hobby.

What gets me is the fact that lots of the people on this "net" were using the ubiquitous Baofeng, running illegal, (for that service), power levels and illegal antennas.
In fact I overheard a couple of these local hams discussing making antennas for use on 446, a pity they can't do this for 70 cms.

Off topic, I've also heard locals discussing on the local repeater, software to decode paging services and one of them telling the other about what he'd decoded at the local hospital, re the Covid-19 pandemic!
I wonder if they know what is and isn't legal ?

Anyway, that's my twopenneth, for what it's worth.

Eddie

PMR 446

by M0VMT » Fri May 01, 2020 9:31 am

why are licensed amateurs using 446 with their ham gear when it is only 500mw from a handheld device :roll:
I just don't get this mentally in our hobby anymore I really don't when we have a perfect band just below it's beggars belief and makes me feel like grabbing hold of these guys and giving them a good shake.

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